Cleanup Project
Dieser Artikel thematisiert die Löschungen von bestimmten Bildern bei Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedia-Gründer Jimbo Wales spielt sich dabei scheinbar mehr und mehr als Diktator auf. Auf Commons ist der Unmut groß[1] dabei macht Jimbo Wales auch vor bekannten Kunstwerken nicht halt [2]
In the beginning ...... Wikipedia und das Vulva-Bild
1 Out of project scope: cleanup project
- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales
- This page is currently semi-protected, and can be edited only by established registered users
- Wheelwar um File:Wiki-fisting.png Jimbo gegen zwei Admins
- http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Remove_Founder_flag#For_removal De-Sysop für Jimbo auf commons? oh oh oh, es wird enger für Jimbo
- http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Jimbo_the_vandal reichlich Adminrücktritte
- Spekulationen um Hintergründe, darunter eine Vorlage von FOX News: Wikipedia Distributing Child Porn, Co-Founder Tells FBI
- Jimbeau zensiert ... äh ... reinigt Wikimedia Commons von Porno-Fotos und historischen Kunstwerken archiv.twoday.net
- Aus dem commons-Lösch-Logbuch (unvollständig):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=delete&month=&year=
- 15:27, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Sex Club (SL).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:26, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Second Life lesbian threesome.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:26, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Saturated-Sex on Second Life.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:24, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Restrained (with strap-on-dildo).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:24, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Party Girl Washing.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:24, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nude on the Beach (SL).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:23, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:May I have your full attention?.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:21, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Let her ride (sex).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:21, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Lesbian threesome on Second Life.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:20, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Intercourse + Fellatio (SL).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:19, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Intercourse + Fellatio (SL)-2.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:19, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Hot Woman-on-Top.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:19, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Happy man during fellatio.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:18, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Double Blowjob in Sex Club (SL).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:17, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Celestial Pee - from Durty Gurl exhibition.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:16, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Careful sex (SL).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:16, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Blowjob on Second Life.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:16, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Beautiful Gina.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:15, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Beach Swing (Second Life).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:15, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Anilingus Second Life.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:15, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Afterglow Second Life.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:12, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wiki-bukkake-2.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:11, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wikibukkake.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:11, 7 May 2010 Bidgee (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Bukkake vector version.svg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:11, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Semfac01.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:11, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wiki-facial.svg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wiki-facial.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Sexuality pearl necklace small.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Cum on face on Second Life.jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:CUMon (Second Life).jpg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Cumfac-01.svg" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 15:10, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Cumfac 01.png" (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:57, 7 May 2010 AFBorchert (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Erect uncut penis.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Erect uncut penis.jpg)
- 13:55, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) restored "File:Édouard-Henri Avril (27).jpg" ? (7 revisions and 1 file restored: apparently has historical value)
- 13:54, 7 May 2010 AFBorchert (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Indian UNcircucised Penis.JPG" ? (Out of project scope: Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Indian UNcircucised Penis.JPG)
- 13:28, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wiki-fisting.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:28, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Jenna Jameson Dirty Bob.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:28, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Toyslove sybian in action kobe lee.OGG" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:27, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Touching herself before sex.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:27, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Self-licking.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:27, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Reyna Leone at Erotica LA 2005 4.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:27, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Reyna Leone at Erotica LA 2005 3.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:26, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nena-Masturbacion.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:26, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nena-Masturbacion con los Dedos.jpg" ? (Out of project scope)
- 13:26, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nena-Masturbacion Femenina.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:26, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation2006.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:25, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbating hand.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:25, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbating female and male.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:25, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Horny (nude by Peter Klashorst).jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:25, 7 May 2010 Foroa (talk | contribs) deleted "Category:Tin foil" ? (Incorrectly named: content was: 'tin foil' (and the only contributor was 'PabloooO0o'))
- 13:25, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Female-masturbation-with-electric-massager.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:24, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Female-masturbation-electric-massager.ogv" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:24, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Female masturbation.svg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:24, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Biamyinmd pregnant masturbation.JPG" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:22, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Uncircumsized male masturbating.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:22, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Submerged ejaculation.ogv" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:21, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Orgasmic muscle contractions.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:21, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation with mink.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:21, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:MasturbatingtoEjaculation.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:21, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbate.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:21, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Male masturbation.OGG" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:20, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Male masturbation followed by ejaculation.ogv" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:20, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ejaculation.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:20, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ejaculation educational movie.ogg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:19, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Cumshot in Super-Slow-Motion (270 fps).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:19, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ejaculation Demonstration Animation.gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:19, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Jerk-off-action.gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Male masturbation top view.gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the Crown-Handle (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the Forefinger-Banging (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the backhand method (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the basic Thumb-Forefinger (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the basic fist method (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:18, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the campfire method (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:17, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - the cock swinging method (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:17, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Masturbation Techniques - tolling of the bells (animated).gif" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 13:07, 7 May 2010 Herbythyme (talk | contribs) restored "File:AzY5I.jpg" ? (3 revisions and 1 file restored: maybe not)
- 13:06, 7 May 2010 Herbythyme (talk | contribs) deleted "File:AzY5I.jpg" ? (junk)
- 12:53, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Wiki-pegging.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:53, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Doggy style pegging.svg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:53, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Doggy style pegging.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:45, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Édouard-Henri Avril (27).jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:44, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Three Lesbians with Salami.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:44, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Three Lesbians with Salami no watermark.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:44, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Strap-on dildo on Second Life.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:44, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Franz von Bayros 016.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:43, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Bottle in vagina (SL).jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:43, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Bottle in vagina (SL)-2.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:43, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Bead.svg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:42, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Bead.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:41, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Louisville kentucky ass for free.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:41, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Biamyinmd pregnant masturbation dildo.JPG" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:41, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Biamyinmd masturbating while pregnant.JPG" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:41, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Amy with dildo.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:40, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Félicien Rops - Sainte-Thérèse.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:40, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nena Masturbacion Dildo.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:39, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nena Masturbacion con Dildo.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 12:39, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Dildo nena.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
- 11:31, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 07.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 10.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Nmnmnmnmnm.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Intheshower.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 20.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 16.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 17.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 18.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 19.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 12.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 11.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 04.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 09.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 08.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 06.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 05.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
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- 11:30, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 02.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:29, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Ashley Taking a Shower 01.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Commons is not your pornsite, not needed to have an entire series of similar pics)
- 11:20, 7 May 2010 Lar (talk | contribs) deleted "File:A woman taking a shower.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: Per deletion of File:; Ashley Taking a Shower 15.jpg)
- 00:25, 7 May 2010 Infrogmation (talk | contribs) restored "File:Fellation from 2006.JPG" ? (21 revisions and 1 file restored: Unilateral undiscussed deletion)
- 00:24, 7 May 2010 Infrogmation (talk | contribs) restored "File:Labret phallic coddling.jpg" ? (13 revisions and 1 file restored: Unilateral undiscussed deletion)
- 00:06, 7 May 2010 TheDJ (talk | contribs) restored "File:Caucasian man masturbating.jpg" ? (10 revisions and 1 file restored: restoring this one for now.)
- Jimbo Wales, der Kunstkritiker auf den zweiten Blick (voher war allerdings schon der Delinker durch 18 Artikel durchgefräst) [1]
12:44, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Franz von Bayros 016.jpg" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
12:40, 7 May 2010 Jimbo Wales (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Félicien Rops - Sainte-Thérèse.png" ? (Out of project scope: cleanup project)
2 Franz von Bayros?
Another one to reconsider: File:Franz von Bayros 016.jpg. Doesn't seem to be prohibited by the evolving COM:SEX. See also my comment above. Lupo 14:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Perfect example of why deletion without thought is not a bright idea. Some stuff is junk - some isn't - not a good example to set. Consider this comment applicable to the next heading too. --Herby talk thyme 14:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, Herby, it isn't necessary to insult me in order to disagree with me. I deleted this with thought, and I'm going to leave it deleted for now because this one - and the next one - are pornography. Really old pornography? Yes. But they are still pornography. I think it possible - with some justification - for this to have some historic significance - does it? Just being old doesn't make something of historic significance. But our default for pornography should be to delete it.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I actually refrained from insulting you - I said nothing I would not have said to any other admin here. I've said what I feel - the speedy deletion of this kind of stuff is not a bright idea (in my opinion). I've deleted a stack of junk in my time as admin on various projects. I'm sure others will make any cases necessary - there is no point in me saying or doing anything else - I'll leave it at that. --Herby talk thyme 14:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I apologize, then. I took "deletion without thought" in the wrong way. I regret mentioning it now. I am sorry.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I actually refrained from insulting you - I said nothing I would not have said to any other admin here. I've said what I feel - the speedy deletion of this kind of stuff is not a bright idea (in my opinion). I've deleted a stack of junk in my time as admin on various projects. I'm sure others will make any cases necessary - there is no point in me saying or doing anything else - I'll leave it at that. --Herby talk thyme 14:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, Herby, it isn't necessary to insult me in order to disagree with me. I deleted this with thought, and I'm going to leave it deleted for now because this one - and the next one - are pornography. Really old pornography? Yes. But they are still pornography. I think it possible - with some justification - for this to have some historic significance - does it? Just being old doesn't make something of historic significance. But our default for pornography should be to delete it.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 14:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I'll have to disagree on this. Evidently it's part of a larger series by an artist who is known best for his erotic drawings. While he's not exactly super-famous, he isn't an unknown either. (Maybe look at the German article.) In my understanding, the educational mission of the Commons encompasses documenting an artist's works as completely as we can.
- By modern standards (well, at least by those of the society I live in, apparently not by yours) it's completely harmless. By what standards do you call this drawing "pornography" instead of "erotic art"? (This is a serious question. COM:SEX should probably provide some guidance about this distinction, more than the bare 2256 criteria give, and the article en:Miller test isn't exactly helpful for that either.)
- Otherwise, let's at least be consistent and indeed delete the whole category, put him on a "Commons index" such that future uploads of that material can also be deleted, and then go on and clean Category:Shunga.
- The same goes for (roughly) for Félicien Rops. Lupo 15:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Can I just point out the irony of Liam Wyatt working with the museums and recently posting this image on his blog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25730976@N06/4525101278/in/pool-mw2010 ? TheDJ (talk) 15:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well after the cleanup project is complete, we can have a longer discussion in the fullness of time about such questions. I would like to get specific guidance from the board, for example, on where they want us to draw the line, but that kind of guidance takes some time - it's a longer discussion with a lot of different stakeholders to consider, including readers, especially readers in very conservative jurisdictions, children and schools. I think a perfectly legitimate position for us to take is that we don't have visual depictions of explicit sexual activity here. I think it's a perfectly fine thing to have people collecting classic pornography - on their own servers, separate from Wikimedia completely.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I just wanted to add here that historical works are not my primary concern, and if I continue doing deletions personally in the next couple of days, I will avoid doing anything with historical-looking images. It's a secondary issue.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I wish you would refrain from performing contestable deletions (I am not talking about clear cases) until the new guidance has been discussed. This includes historic paintings and non-historic graphics. --Leyo 15:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Weitere Kandidaten: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Wikiproject:Erotica/image_level_demo/Gallery&action=history